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09/10/2003

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Gostaria de saber se alguem já experimentou os componentes PostgresDAC, se já desenvolveu alguma coisa e como funcionou.

Segundo o site (www.microolap.com) ele permitiria o uso do banco sem o BDE ou outro qualquer.

Ricardo.
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11/11/2003

Edmarss

Utilize os componentes ZEOS, pois em sua nova versão está muito melhor.

edmar@neosistem.com.br


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12/07/2005

Marioguedes

Estou propenso a usar os componentes da PostgresDAC e gostaria de saber se algum colega já utilizou?

Grato,


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04/08/2005

Silviogs

Olá amigo

vc vai deixar de usar o zeos que é free por um que pago? e muito caro por sinal?

O que adianta usar um banco opensource com componente comercial?

olha já testei o zeos no Delphi7, 2005, lazarus win32 e funcionou beleza.

só está faltando testar no lazarus para linux porque não consegui instalar o postgre 8 ainda.

uma dica trilegal! como dizem os gaúchos: Linux, Lazarus e PostgreSQL.

Atenciosamente

Silvio Guedes


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04/08/2005

Marioguedes

Olá Silvio, seus argumentos são bem convicentes.... mas....

No Zeos, por exemplo, é possível utilizar o recurso de NOTIFY do postgre? Se sim, é o argumento final, se não, continuo a pensar...

Valeu!


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25/08/2005

Silviogs

Olá amigo

veja este tutotial:

NOTIFY
Name
NOTIFY -- generate a notification
Synopsis
NOTIFY name Description
The NOTIFY command sends a notification event to each client application that has previously executed LISTEN name for the specified notification name in the current database.

NOTIFY provides a simple form of signal or interprocess communication mechanism for a collection of processes accessing the same PostgreSQL database. Higher-level mechanisms can be built by using tables in the database to pass additional data (beyond a mere notification name) from notifier to listener(s).

The information passed to the client for a notification event includes the notification name and the notifying session´s server process PID. It is up to the database designer to define the notification names that will be used in a given database and what each one means.

Commonly, the notification name is the same as the name of some table in the database, and the notify event essentially means, ´I changed this table, take a look at it to see what´s new´. But no such association is enforced by the NOTIFY and LISTEN commands. For example, a database designer could use several different notification names to signal different sorts of changes to a single table.

When NOTIFY is used to signal the occurrence of changes to a particular table, a useful programming technique is to put the NOTIFY in a rule that is triggered by table updates. In this way, notification happens automatically when the table is changed, and the application programmer can´t accidentally forget to do it.

NOTIFY interacts with SQL transactions in some important ways. Firstly, if a NOTIFY is executed inside a transaction, the notify events are not delivered until and unless the transaction is committed. This is appropriate, since if the transaction is aborted, all the commands within it have had no effect, including NOTIFY. But it can be disconcerting if one is expecting the notification events to be delivered immediately. Secondly, if a listening session receives a notification signal while it is within a transaction, the notification event will not be delivered to its connected client until just after the transaction is completed (either committed or aborted). Again, the reasoning is that if a notification were delivered within a transaction that was later aborted, one would want the notification to be undone somehow — but the server cannot ´take back´ a notification once it has sent it to the client. So notification events are only delivered between transactions. The upshot of this is that applications using NOTIFY for real-time signaling should try to keep their transactions short.

NOTIFY behaves like Unix signals in one important respect: if the same notification name is signaled multiple times in quick succession, recipients may get only one notification event for several executions of NOTIFY. So it is a bad idea to depend on the number of notifications received. Instead, use NOTIFY to wake up applications that need to pay attention to something, and use a database object (such as a sequence) to keep track of what happened or how many times it happened.

It is common for a client that executes NOTIFY to be listening on the same notification name itself. In that case it will get back a notification event, just like all the other listening sessions. Depending on the application logic, this could result in useless work, for example, reading a database table to find the same updates that that session just wrote out. It is possible to avoid such extra work by noticing whether the notifying session´s server process PID (supplied in the notification event message) is the same as one´s own session´s PID (available from libpq). When they are the same, the notification event is one´s own work bouncing back, and can be ignored. (Despite what was said in the preceding paragraph, this is a safe technique. PostgreSQL keeps self-notifications separate from notifications arriving from other sessions, so you cannot miss an outside notification by ignoring your own notifications.)

Parameters

name
Name of the notification to be signaled (any identifier).

Examples
Configure and execute a listen/notify sequence from psql:

LISTEN virtual;
NOTIFY virtual;
Asynchronous notification ´virtual´ received from server process with PID 8448.
Compatibility
There is no NOTIFY statement in the SQL standard.

Atenciosamente

Silvio Guedes


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17/09/2005

Winfor

Meu amigo,

Como tb estou iniciando com o Postgres, baixei e instalei os componentes da MicroOlap. Achei que são bons componentes e conectam muito bem o BD de forma simples e direta sem sustos. Porém, por causa de uma provável incompatibilidade com o provider do Delphi, fui obrigado a mudar e agora estou testando a Zeos 6.5.1. Apesar de usar o PostGres 8, estou utilizando o driver do 7.4 desta biblioteca. Até agora se conectou mas ainda não consegui gravar as informações no BD.
Mas se o produto da MicroOlap não tivesse dado este problema, com certeza eu o utilizaria.
Se vc conseguiu conectar e teve outra situação, fale com a gente aqui pra trocarmos experiências.

Um abraço.


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19/09/2005

Lucianobarreto

Meu amigo, Como tb estou iniciando com o Postgres, baixei e instalei os componentes da MicroOlap. Achei que são bons componentes e conectam muito bem o BD de forma simples e direta sem sustos. Porém, por causa de uma provável incompatibilidade com o provider do Delphi, fui obrigado a mudar e agora estou testando a Zeos 6.5.1. Apesar de usar o PostGres 8, estou utilizando o driver do 7.4 desta biblioteca. Até agora se conectou mas ainda não consegui gravar as informações no BD. Mas se o produto da MicroOlap não tivesse dado este problema, com certeza eu o utilizaria. Se vc conseguiu conectar e teve outra situação, fale com a gente aqui pra trocarmos experiências. Um abraço.


Use o Protocol ´postgresql´ que vai dar certo, qualquer coisa so falar


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19/09/2005

Silviogs

Olá amigo

vc não conseguiu gravar porque o componenet zquery precisa que a propriedade requestlive fique true para efetuar post na base ok.

Atenciosamente

Silvio Guedes


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